UK Justice Secretary Ken Clarke found time fresh from a cabinet meeting with his colleagues today to have a look round Cardiff Prison.
One of Ken’s big ideas is that prisoners should have the chance to learn skills, and earn money so that they have more of a chance of fitting back into society when they are released back into the real world.
He is very keen that time spent in prison should not just be a punitive experience but also an opportunity for the prisoner to use the experience as positively as possible
I asked the Minister a number of questions including why there was no women’s prison in Wales so that families could easily visit their loved-ones?
I also asked him his views on the still unfolding phone hacking scandal.
But first, was he impressed by what he saw at Cardiff Prison?